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Posted: 31-08-2003 04:53
by The_One
or remove keeper volley latency.
Posted: 31-08-2003 08:44
by Om3Ga
Why change it anyway? It's not lame, and you can defend against it.
Posted: 31-08-2003 09:05
by DavidM
Then read my point again.
Posted: 31-08-2003 11:50
by vF_Zonk
"It should be made worse because it's already bad, and it needs to be worse so less people do it" doesnt seem like a very good reason
Posted: 31-08-2003 13:19
by DavidM
In FFA people prefer doing a self-wall-pass (which gets intercepted) over passing to a team mate, which ruins a lot.
We'll add it as option (def on) at first.
Posted: 31-08-2003 13:29
by BL44T
hm, let me guess, all dbl servers are gonna use it, all others arent.
Posted: 31-08-2003 13:30
by Fruitcake
erm instead of making self vollies weaker why not make normal shots more powerful

....this is gonne fuck up teh mod

Posted: 31-08-2003 14:17
by DavidM
All keepers are gonna jump at me if we do that!
Shoot balancing seems just right for me, You can score from the penalty box line, not from farer away, I don't dare to touch this.
Posted: 31-08-2003 14:18
by Imo
DavidM wrote:
In FFA people prefer doing a self-wall-pass (which gets intercepted) over passing to a team mate, which ruins a lot.
We'll add it as option (def on) at first.
Join a clan then?! Play less maps with walls behind the goal? As they said above, "If it isn't broken, don't fix it".
If you want people to use the wall volley less, increase charge up speed and power and decrease charge up sound then people will shoot more.
Posted: 31-08-2003 14:22
by Imo
DavidM wrote:
All keepers are gonna jump at me if we do that!
Shoot balancing seems just right for me, You can score from the penalty box line, not from farer away, I don't dare to touch this.
A good keeper with defence saves that goal 95% of the time if not more. A good keeper with "I make box defend" pbox camping should save that goal 99% of the time.
Sounds like you've just said you won't be changing either.
Posted: 31-08-2003 16:19
by Armagon
A good keeper with defence saves that goal 95% of the time if not more. A good keeper with "I make box defend" pbox camping should save that goal 99% of the time.
That doesn't sound the slightest bit exaggerated (note sarcasm).
Whatever happened to good ATTACKERS? Or are you including them in those ludicrous, made-up statistics?
Posted: 31-08-2003 17:07
by Om3Ga
erm instead of making self vollies weaker why not make normal shots more powerful

....this is gonne fuck up teh mod
Join a clan then?! Play less maps with walls behind the goal? As they said above, "If it isn't broken, don't fix it".
Couldn't agree more.
Posted: 31-08-2003 17:44
by Fruitcake
davidm the keepers catch radius is large enough already

Posted: 31-08-2003 17:51
by Diab
for what i see in clan matches if someone tries to self wall volley its because they ended up 1v1 on the keeper, and the time it takes for the ball to hit the wall and bounce back the keeper has lept out and done something (most of the time with harold at least).
i also agree with davidm about shooting power, its not underpowerd at all and too much power will just cause alot more needless goals i matches, can anyone say 30-25? and there was the time where the charge sound was too low for a version and people complained about it, so how it is atm is fine o_o
its mostly pub games people complain about isnt it?
Posted: 31-08-2003 18:09
by Om3Ga
Yeh, why I think it should be optional. Put self volley down (off basically) in publics, and in matches/pickups put it on.