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Posted: 25-04-2005 13:53
by Kisa
WERTZUIÜASDGJLÄCVN
???
The Q just didn't occur when both shift keys were used ...

Posted: 25-04-2005 14:21
by jooly
SDFGHJKLZXVBNM<

hmm.

Posted: 25-04-2005 15:10
by Tholdos
QWERUIOPGHZXCVBNM

But I've switched some keys, originally I had a Belgian keyboard :S.
So originally it would have been something like AZERUIOPGHWXCVBN.
Gonna test on some more computers now.
Very curious that it's different on every computer.

Posted: 25-04-2005 16:04
by puckoberon
Even more curious it's different on the same computer swapping keyboards... Tried it this morning on another computer than mine (did'n't save results, but swapping keyboards really does change the outcome. And they were identical keyboards...?!)

And really curious is a Frysian using an azerty keyboard. :D

EDIT: typo in the keyboard layout

Posted: 25-04-2005 16:07
by Kisa
Maybe some electrons causing a blockage in the wires :)

Posted: 25-04-2005 16:33
by acobra
WERTYUIASDGJLCVN

Tried a few times, got that everytime...

Posted: 25-04-2005 17:10
by subgenius
AERTYUIOPQDFGHJKLMWXCVBN
everything except the Z and S...
and it is the same if you use caps lock and the two shift keys...

stupid french keyboard:mad:
verified using multiple tests..

Posted: 25-04-2005 17:17
by rockbaby
those letters u guys r getting r called arabic letters they r found on my keyboard lol (i speak that language ) like : æìÑÊ íÊ ÎÔí Ô ÓÚ íåÚ Ä

Posted: 25-04-2005 17:20
by Bazje
??? (...) ???

Posted: 25-04-2005 17:22
by acobra
I had to find out why this was the happening, so I did some research.. it has to do with the number of simultaneous keys you can press on the keyboard, and also where they are.

Not 100% sure I understand why this causes what we are seeing here, but I found this article that explains part of it:

http://www.braille2000.com/brl2000/KeyboardReq.htm

and a quote from someone that took apart their keyboard to figure this one out:

"As I thought, the "problematic" keys occupy a common row. The Left and
Right Shift keys are in the same row but different columns. I suspect
that holding down three or more keys in the same row or column causes
a "lockout". This appears to contravene IBM's PC/AT keyboard spec
which states that "the keyboard is able to detect all keys that are
pressed, and their scan codes will be sent to the interface in correct
sequence, regardless of the number of keys held down".

Posted: 25-04-2005 17:33
by Bazje
hmmmm....I think my theory of the invasion of the aliens is much more realistic! :D ......probably you are one of them and trying to let us see a whole different answer to the problem!! You are trying to manipulate the human being and take over the world!! HA!....I can see this all happen.....mwoehahaha....I'm a genius!!! \o/

Posted: 25-04-2005 17:47
by david_g
"As I thought, the "problematic" keys occupy a common row. The Left and
Right Shift keys are in the same row but different columns. I suspect
that holding down three or more keys in the same row or column causes
a "lockout". This appears to contravene IBM's PC/AT keyboard spec
which states that "the keyboard is able to detect all keys that are
pressed, and their scan codes will be sent to the interface in correct
sequence, regardless of the number of keys held down".



WERTYUIASDGJLCVN

The location of my problem keys doesn't seem at all related to the location of my shift keys. There doesn't seem to be any pattern at all.

I still haven't seen a sastifactory explanation for why some keys are fine and some keys don't work.

Posted: 25-04-2005 18:03
by acobra
yeah that's why i was still not clear on it but I think it's related, someway......

I'd like to see the people that reported no missing letters to try that sdfjkl test from the article...

or maybe I really am one of those aliens.. hmmmm....

Posted: 25-04-2005 18:33
by Bazje
\o/ \o/ Happy birthday to me!!!!!! \o/ \o/
\o/ \o/ Happy birthday to me!!!!!! \o/ \o/

...for all of you a big applepie!!! If you can come to my house ofcourse....:p

Posted: 25-04-2005 18:46
by junimond_
oh congrats Bazje :)


happy birthday :D