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Cenotaph
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Post by Cenotaph »

Daniel, Epic Games Inc.
To put this into a bit more perspective - we're talking about 5 MByte worth of source code changes (and this doesn't even include new code) from UT2003 v2225 to the current UT2004 code tree... It's actually quite scary to see how much has changed. We are now at version 3053 which means we had over 800 internal builds since the last UT2003 patch thus far.

Anyone familiar with merging and backporting code will know the dependency game where one tiny feature you want to port will have a dependency on another which then will have a dependency on yet another feature and so on till you realize that to backport it you either had to rewrite it in the old codebase or literally backport everything.

AFAICT Unreal -> Unreal Tournament had fewer code changes than Unreal Tournament 2003 -> Unreal Tournament 2004.
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Post by Rens2Sea »

ONLY the netcode isnt compatible.
That means, you can play db in ut2k4 but ONLY on ut2k4 db servers... You cant play on ut2k3 servers...
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Post by Messy »

I don't really mind since I'm gonna have both installed x_X

Most servers will be updating anyway :s and I'll buy it (yes..I have no life, but I hardly play any other games so mehh..)

I just hope they're gonna fix the nasty error that causes 'our' bug (the bug) in db :x
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Post by Onge »

I won't buy UT2k4...It's gonna end up being a yearly francise like FIFA. And if each time they release a version you need to buy it or you can't play online, then they can shove it.
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Post by Messy »

One person not buying it...THAT'll teach em!
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Post by Catalyst88 »

Messy wrote: I don't really mind since I'm gonna have both installed x_X

Most servers will be updating anyway :s and I'll buy it (yes..I have no life, but I hardly play any other games so mehh..)

I just hope they're gonna fix the nasty error that causes 'our' bug (the bug) in db :x

I've already had a good shot at fixing that :)
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Post by Rens2Sea »

Messy wrote: I just hope they're gonna fix the nasty error that causes 'our' bug (the bug) in db :x


THey already did that
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Post by FireCell »

Messy wrote: One person not buying it...THAT'll teach em!


Well thats just retarded.. if everyone thought like that then mass movements that could benefit man kind would never happen. Imagine million people all individually deciding to make a stand and not buy it.. you get the point? :p
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Post by GreyFox »

surprise surprise , epic r doin anything to save some cash on their cheap ass ut2k3 clone
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Post by Cenotaph »

if epic really wanted to save money, they would have never announced they were planning to do it backwards compatible just to piss players off.....
its just not do-able....

after this, rebate for ut2k3 owners makes no more sense, but they didnt cancel it, at least yet....

read above statement from sum1 in Epic Games Inc. and understand the reasons........
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Post by BL44T »

Well yeah it's a bit retarded they first announce it'll be backwards compactible and then seem to have 'forgotten' they couldn't realize it anyway. I mean, they have a plan, right; what they want to make, how they do it and how long it would take (<- oh well that's just normal, not that any game developer seems to care about it but nvm). They are professionals, and maybe even if they weren't, they should be able to predict/plan if a game is backwards compactible or not, and imo they should never ever say it is in the first place, when it doesnt seem to be when the game's almost ready (? :)).

I think I'm gonna buy (..) it anyway, well, maybe only if 2k3 owners get a nice (not like €10, a bit more would be nice..) discount. :)
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Post by nameless »

at least Epic bring us quality games imo...
do they? unreal2 was boring, ut2k3 is shit. Hope ut2k4 won t go on this way ...
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Post by YoYo789 »

perhaps rewrite it:

Epic bring us quality engines,
Modders bring us quality games.
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Post by Morning*Star »

Unreal Tournament was the only one i liked, only reason i got UT2003 installed is for mods
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Post by Rens2Sea »

Only reason i will get the ut2004 dvd edition for 60€ is for mods(making) :up:
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