Pickup enhancer

Post by **DavidM** » 21-09-2003 16:52

uhm, you dont make much sense

so if the current randomiser gets you a hated player in your team.....? 0_o

tell me why the randomizer is better than our bot, you had no points there.

Lithinite · Post by **Lithinite** » 21-09-2003 16:55

ya.. mb, that was badly worded... sry

umm... what i mean is that if the 2 higher ranked players on your team are both offense but hate each other or just play like crap together (2 egos) not much offense will be generated. This makes the games again one sided and the game still has the problems that you were trying to solve when making this bot in the first place: 1 sided games.

hope that explains what i'm saying better

Post by **DavidM** » 21-09-2003 16:57

no it doesn't
you are just saying that it's not able to get a perfect mix...

is it worse than the old system?
no, impossible since the old one is random

can it be better? yes

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 21-09-2003 18:03

DavidM wrote: when one team has a better def, the other team will get the better off

Wouldn't it be better to balance it out - ie 1 good defender and 1 good attacker per team rather than 2 good attackers vs 2 good defenders?

Post by **DavidM** » 21-09-2003 18:10

....
for the case its not possible
for example the 4 defs have these values:
4 3 2 2

how do you wanna balance it fair?, wont work...
it will be 4+2 and 3+2

blah

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 21-09-2003 19:08

And in the absence of good attackers would it try and balance the good defenders between teams?

Post by **DavidM** » 21-09-2003 19:11

it balances all who signed up for attack by their attack values...

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 21-09-2003 19:12

Right, I'm starting to understand this now...

R3L!K · Post by **R3L!K** » 21-09-2003 23:30

what if people rotate positions mid game

(gotchya :p )

Post by **DavidM** » 22-09-2003 00:08

people cannot rotate positions in the old pickup system?

Goldeneye · Post by **Goldeneye** » 22-09-2003 00:27

this is just to help pickups being balanced, and thereby more fun - who likes being raped 20-0 ? and its often not much fun on the winning team then either. if you say, never happened to me, then you're just lucky. sure this won't make every game a thriller, but it probably will help somewhat.

YoYo789 · Post by **YoYo789** » 22-09-2003 00:50

Have you got logs of say the last 100 pickup games? Why don't people give it a go, and you could post the scores after a number of games have been run under the new system, then compare the old margins with the new.

Post by **DavidM** » 22-09-2003 01:04

50% of the pickups I played were totally unbalanced

YoYo789 · Post by **YoYo789** » 22-09-2003 01:32

well, just try it and see, it will be very clear which method is better.

Post by **DavidM** » 22-09-2003 01:34

dude....it cannot be worse