I don't want to play soccer...
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I like to be creative on the field and I'd prefer it if the current artificial restriction wasn't imposed on me.
At least the 6 (or whatever) second limit would allow for some kind of variation while still restricting self volley goals. It even makes some kind of sense, maybe the gun takes that long to fully charge up for a volley.
At least the 6 (or whatever) second limit would allow for some kind of variation while still restricting self volley goals. It even makes some kind of sense, maybe the gun takes that long to fully charge up for a volley.
actually i like the 6 second idea. I think 4 seconds would be balanced enough though.
It's a good alternative. It still stops the egoists and retains the old power settings.
Although you'd have to be given a lot of space and time to express those creative urges. Not sure if you'd have that with more than 8 players on the map. Maybe with 6 though.
It's a good alternative. It still stops the egoists and retains the old power settings.
Although you'd have to be given a lot of space and time to express those creative urges. Not sure if you'd have that with more than 8 players on the map. Maybe with 6 though.
I like the idea too, but there will never be a delay that's good for it
Creative urges should still be expressed, just only in smaller maps, and not to finish a shot off :p just aim higher and wait longer And have more chance of getting it intercepted
You know what...just pass ;p
(I get what you mean though The_One, and it sounds ok but you'll never get a suitable delay)
Creative urges should still be expressed, just only in smaller maps, and not to finish a shot off :p just aim higher and wait longer And have more chance of getting it intercepted
You know what...just pass ;p
(I get what you mean though The_One, and it sounds ok but you'll never get a suitable delay)
This change is supposed to restrict "egoing", why does it have to restrict anything else? It currently stops much more than that so I am not happy with it.
Why do you think this value would be hard to find messy? It would just be the the lowest value you could get away with while still penalising "egoing". Trial and error would find that out in about an hours testing.
Why do you think this value would be hard to find messy? It would just be the the lowest value you could get away with while still penalising "egoing". Trial and error would find that out in about an hours testing.
The_One wrote: It would just be the the lowest value you could get away with while still penalising "egoing". Trial and error would find that out in about an hours testing.
That's just it I don't think it's easy to find one value that will stop egoing consistently, while also not restricting people too much...consistently
I suppose it's definitely worth trying though
I like it this way
And I guess I'll like it about as much, possible more, possibly less depending on how close the value comes to doing what it should (..consistently :p)
edit: that said, I haven't played with this build much, I have to admit..I can imagine it'll be harder to do some of the stuff that wasn't intended to score with, but just be pretty (especially volley assisting and passing), stuff I liked (a lot) too
Anyway, if it's really that bad, both the delay should be added and tested, and the volley speed should be adjust imo (but the last time it was changed it wasn't slow enough tbh you hardly noticed with small distances)
Last edited by Messy on 24-08-2004 21:30, edited 1 time in total.
But check this parallel:
Reg mode- 2 on 1 develops, person currently with ball shoots
VO mode- 2 on 1 develops, person currently with ball fires of backwall and volleys toward the net
What's the difference? By the "egoing" definition, any person that shoots the ball instead of passing is doing an "ego" so by that token the ball carrier in the Reg scenario is in fact "egoing" but in a different way. Can someone explain this difference to me?
Reg mode- 2 on 1 develops, person currently with ball shoots
VO mode- 2 on 1 develops, person currently with ball fires of backwall and volleys toward the net
What's the difference? By the "egoing" definition, any person that shoots the ball instead of passing is doing an "ego" so by that token the ball carrier in the Reg scenario is in fact "egoing" but in a different way. Can someone explain this difference to me?
Holy shit people are posting too fast now
While I was editing my post /o\
edit: The_One: don't mind Twig I've been ignoring him for a long time now ;p
His points are just too abstract Dunno if it's ignorance or anything else.
Nothing personal Twig ;p just don't agree with anything you seem to think
Oh well, maybe it makes sense to you
While I was editing my post /o\
edit: The_One: don't mind Twig I've been ignoring him for a long time now ;p
His points are just too abstract Dunno if it's ignorance or anything else.
Nothing personal Twig ;p just don't agree with anything you seem to think
Oh well, maybe it makes sense to you