Map idea for DBL (to make cube go away >:D)

-plær- · Post by **-plær-** » 09-02-2004 14:51

I preferred old-greenbaize as well, if only for the fact that I had the angles sussed on the balls to the point where I could score trickshots off them.

Messy · Post by **Messy** » 09-02-2004 16:44

I like new greenbaize =\
I have to admit I didn't have as much control over the balls as other players had, but I would have cared enough to improve on that if it didn't actually make the game so extremely spammy because players seemed to continuously home there shots and passes into the balls -.-

I don't care about the lack of outside wall

Greenbaize forces teams to control the ball better

Chubbs · Post by **Chubbs** » 09-02-2004 22:08

agree with messy i hate the old greenbaize, the new one's much better

nameless · Post by **nameless** » 10-02-2004 11:58

But the thing I've never liked about the map is the constant ball-resetting...

If someone throws out the ball, the oponent team will get a penalty shot

Guitar_God · Post by **Guitar_God** » 12-02-2004 19:52

Penalty shot... hmm.... I don't know if I like that idea.

I suppose my idea would require some major recoding...

What if it was like soccer (futball *gg euro*) on ball resets.

If the ball goes out of bounds in different areas of the field, a player of the opposite team of the last touch regains the ball on like, sidelines, corners, stuff like that.

Just my worthless .02 as it is DavidMBall.

Guity

Guitar_God · Post by **Guitar_God** » 12-02-2004 19:55

Oh one more thing....

I thought i would bestow some wise knowledge upon map makers.....

As far as cube-style maps are concerned!

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!!!!!

'nuff said!

[1234]Jr · Post by **[1234]Jr** » 13-02-2004 00:46

it's more of an open-top cubiod than a box.. but whatever...

ever heard of Sediment and Curve?

Post by **DavidM** » 13-02-2004 12:12

no throw ins or stuff, that would take all the flow out

absuga · Post by **absuga** » 14-02-2004 21:47

well that idea isnt that bad but still its not necessary.... if u are team admin and if u dont like cube u can play in other map..... i think that would only work if there were more maps like cube (stadiums) and with same size

Chubbs · Post by **Chubbs** » 15-02-2004 00:38

that would only work if there were more maps like cube (stadiums) and with same size

that would just be pointless. Same sort of map, same style of gameplay, only different surroundings. Maybe fun at first but eventually people would get bored of it just like cube unless special features like jump pads or ramps are added

Post by **DavidM** » 15-02-2004 02:07

ehm actually......does cube get boring? I mean people play it over and over for months and years every day in pickups. So why not put this gameplay in other environments?

[1234]Jr · Post by **[1234]Jr** » 15-02-2004 11:21

Problem is, deathball is basically football... anything other than shape than Cube is asking for trouble.. if you start adding ramps and jumppads, it just gets worse... you dont see Man U Vs Arsenal wanting a change, so they stick 2 goals in a carpark and play amongst the cars, do ya?

..wait, thats a good map idea

CorDawg · Post by **CorDawg** » 15-02-2004 21:04

its not davidms dbl anyway, its bazzis \\o, go over the the dbl forums and see what bazzi thinks of it

Goldeneye · Post by **Goldeneye** » 16-02-2004 00:52

Chubbs wrote: that would just be pointless. Same sort of map, same style of gameplay, only different surroundings. Maybe fun at first but eventually people would get bored of it just like cube unless special features like jump pads or ramps are added

if that's all you think should be added to cube, just get someone to write a mutator that will randomly spawn jumppads and ramps (well, some premade staticmeshes) in cube et voilà lots of new maps for you

anyways, i think different sized cubes (with different themes too of course

) would be the most acceptable change for maps that are to be used in leaguematches. also of course the optional ceiling and goals inside or in front of the back walls. things like the plateaus in chill and old tribun tend to focus the game on those which usually leads to whoring the same move over and over. in new tribun they are just useless , they don't really block anything and don't help in any way too imho, but i only have played it in a few pub games... different layouts like curve are also a nice and acceptable variation i think, although you have to watch out that the map doesn't get too long.
To conclude this: an idea to get a slight variaton to cube in league matches could be to allow every clan to design his own stadium. If a clan doesn't want to they can use cube or maybe also lowcube. Also there need to be strict rules for the properties of the map e.g:
- max., min. length / distance between goals (using a thought line that follows the middle of the maps shape for non rectangular maps.
- max., min. width of the map (using lines perpendicular to the one used for the lenght)
- no jumppads, traps, ramps, plateaus, slants?
- walls that border the field (exept someone would write a sensible mutator for out balls and throwins etc) with optional ceiling
- max. filesize
and whatever else you could think of would be sensible to add.
well, and those maps would have to be finished before the season starts and must be available for public, so everyone can have a look and train on them.
next when it's time for a match between two clans if there is either one leg:
- one server (of home team?)
- 2 maps (the maps of the 2 clans)
- each map you win you get 2 or 3 point, each draw 1 and every each loss 0.
or for two legs:
- one home (1st leg) and one guest match (2nd leg)
- guestmap (1st leg) and homeleg (2nd leg) or other way round if you don't want to bother serveradmins with uploading maps.
- per leg: win=2/3, draw=1, loss=0

main 'problem' of this would be that server admins might have to upload many maps, but you won't get around this anyways if you want variation.

RaGe|DB · Post by **RaGe|DB** » 16-02-2004 07:29

Goldeneye wrote: if that's all you think should be added to cube, just get someone to write a mutator that will randomly spawn jumppads and ramps (well, some premade staticmeshes) in cube et voilà lots of new maps for you

anyways, i think different sized cubes (with different themes too of course ) would be the most acceptable change for maps that are to be used in leaguematches. also of course the optional ceiling and goals inside or in front of the back walls. things like the plateaus in chill and old tribun tend to focus the game on those which usually leads to whoring the same move over and over. in new tribun they are just useless , they don't really block anything and don't help in any way too imho, but i only have played it in a few pub games... different layouts like curve are also a nice and acceptable variation i think, although you have to watch out that the map doesn't get too long.
To conclude this: an idea to get a slight variaton to cube in league matches could be to allow every clan to design his own stadium. If a clan doesn't want to they can use cube or maybe also lowcube. Also there need to be strict rules for the properties of the map e.g:
- max., min. length / distance between goals (using a thought line that follows the middle of the maps shape for non rectangular maps.
- max., min. width of the map (using lines perpendicular to the one used for the lenght)
- no jumppads, traps, ramps, plateaus, slants?
- walls that border the field (exept someone would write a sensible mutator for out balls and throwins etc) with optional ceiling
- max. filesize
and whatever else you could think of would be sensible to add.
well, and those maps would have to be finished before the season starts and must be available for public, so everyone can have a look and train on them.
next when it's time for a match between two clans if there is either one leg:
- one server (of home team?)
- 2 maps (the maps of the 2 clans)
- each map you win you get 2 or 3 point, each draw 1 and every each loss 0.
or for two legs:
- one home (1st leg) and one guest match (2nd leg)
- guestmap (1st leg) and homeleg (2nd leg) or other way round if you don't want to bother serveradmins with uploading maps.
- per leg: win=2/3, draw=1, loss=0

main 'problem' of this would be that server admins might have to upload many maps, but you won't get around this anyways if you want variation.

and i thought Goldeneye couldn't speak